Sunny :
"Haminia,
Talibans and other suicide attackers are not muslim. and they are not exhibiting islamic teachings. Allah, or any of His prophet has not taught us to kill anyone in the name of religion and Allah. Yes there is a concept of jihad (WAR...), which is just like other concepts of war. that if your enemy is trying to eliminate you, you should fight with them for your survival. this every nation does, every country does.
Now if a Christian comes up with idea that hes sent by Jesus and he who does not agree with him, shall be executed in Jesus name, will you follow him/ or call him Chiristian?
The name of Islam religion is been misused by the greedy and bad people in their own interest, and unfortunately media has propagated this agenda on purpose throughout the world, to degrade muslims. why didn't you find true Islamic teachings on internet or in videos in abundance? You see what others want you to see. Behind, there's something entirely different! Don't be confused in this maze and you will get light Haminia !
Haminia :Talibans and other suicide attackers are not muslim. and they are not exhibiting islamic teachings. Allah, or any of His prophet has not taught us to kill anyone in the name of religion and Allah. Yes there is a concept of jihad (WAR...), which is just like other concepts of war. that if your enemy is trying to eliminate you, you should fight with them for your survival. this every nation does, every country does.
Now if a Christian comes up with idea that hes sent by Jesus and he who does not agree with him, shall be executed in Jesus name, will you follow him/ or call him Chiristian?
The name of Islam religion is been misused by the greedy and bad people in their own interest, and unfortunately media has propagated this agenda on purpose throughout the world, to degrade muslims. why didn't you find true Islamic teachings on internet or in videos in abundance? You see what others want you to see. Behind, there's something entirely different! Don't be confused in this maze and you will get light Haminia !
"Dear friend, I would better hear about your management
lessons with the difference between Leadership and Management !
If your students understood the difference and what did they say ?
What do they want to be and if they feel able to be managers or
leaders...This is my passion in my career.
As about Islam religion, I asked many muslims in the last year to
explain to me what it means because in my country nobody knows
about it and because I saw on TV many bad news from Islamic
countries, like the bomb terrorist attacks which scare me a lot
and make me think how can you live such a life ?
That's why I wanted to know the Reality of Islam, not the ancient
books. I read the Quran and there are many questions I have to
ask an educated muslim about many things which bring much
bad to all the people, muslims or non-muslims. Unfortunately,
the muslims avoid to answer the Truth ...as I have noticed.
They get angry or silent for ever,avoid any discussion or comment
when I put a question and when I see that all of them avoid the
item, what can I believe ? The single thought that crosses my
mind is that they hide the truth.
I also read on many English written newspapers the same feeling...
but they write very direct their questions and the answers are lies.
Not even a little child can believe that Bin Laden lived 5 years in
Pakistan, very close to Islamabad and the Military Academy....
Why is the truth hidden and by whom ? Pakistan is a muslim
country and I can not understand what happens there, why are
there so many terrorist attacks and killed people ? More than
30.000 died people as the President Zarzari said...why ? Who
killed them?
Dear friend, my best friends on face book are from Pakistan and
I can not believe that in Pakistan there is so much Bad and
suffering of all the people. You say that talibans are not muslims
but they say that they are the best followers of Allah and that
they kill in the name of Allah.
I watched hundreds of videos from YouTube and they prove a
very bad life for muslim women ( they speak) and also they prove
the desire of some men to die for Allah because after death they
will be given by Allah 72 maid girls, honey, milk and exotic fruits
and the Paradise.
I read a lot and I think that I know what is the mentality of the
men muslims about life : they respect Muhammand's rules
about women who are just tools for their pleasure. I write only
what I read and saw with my eyes. There are very high position
men in Pakistan who think the same NOW ( I was in direct
conversation with many people on Net who were quarreling...) .
Maybe you also don't like what I write here, but this is the
reality of muslims life in a muslim country. You started to give
me pieces of advice about what to read and I tell you that I read
a lot and I am interested in the Present Reality . We live in
Present !
As about Christianity, I was born in it but I never speak about
it with my co nationals or other people ...nobody speaks about
their religion except very few cases when somebody asks me
about as You did now. I don't advice anybody to read the Bible ,
why should I ? Everyone is free to think and to choose !
I live my life not following the pages of any book, but following
the respect for each human being, following the Good for me and
for everybody. I believe in the Creator , the single God who gave
me and all the human beings the Breath and the right to live !
I don't agree with what the muslims say that God is a single one
and His name is Allah.
Allah is the muslims' God not mine or of the Buddhist people ,
or of Hindu people etc. In my mother tongue language God is
called with another word but nobody except my co nationals
know this name because we don't tell anybody to believe in what
we believe. Only the muslims made Allah and Muhammad so
spoken about all over the world.
Who speaks about Dumnezeu ? Only me and my co nationals,
when we pray to God ! God created all the human beings and
gave us Breath and Life and His Love ...Not the right to kill His
creation or to humiliate the women as they are when they are
obliged by religion to wear the veil, to stay at home for the
pleasure of his husband, to make at least four children (to eight) ,
to cook and not go outside the house without her husband...
So many restrictions as though they would be slaves ...I have
been living in Freedom and Respect for all the people, no
matter if one is a man and the other is a woman. The muslims
say that the non-muslims women are "public property" and I
feel that this is a big offense to the women because more than
80 % of them are non muslims and this is a big lie because
the muslims like the woman to be their property in the bad
sense...they can beat their wives, they can kill them, they have
the right over their life in the name of Allah and Muhammad.
I don't accept this behavior . The women in Europe wish only
one husband for a life and the men also want to have only a
beloved wife in their life. Those men who want more women
to have think of Muhammad who had 13 wives and Aisha who
was 6 years old. They are sick, in my opinion, they are ....
pedophiles and our laws arrest such men and send them to
prison.
Dear friend, you and some other Pakistani fb friends are very
good at heart people and very sensitive and polite and gentle with
me but I have a question in my mind...until when ? If I come to
Pakistan, you will tell me a lot of things about my behavior there ..
because the other people will ....what ?
I am not a muslim and I don't write and speak about Islam for
any interest...I just want to know what is Islam in the real life and
why are there so many wars in the Islamic countries...there is too
much suffering and death on the planet because of religion Islam.
The other countries never speak or write about God as I can read
everywhere on Mass media. I hope you will not be angry with me
from now on...because I tell you what I know from newspapers ,
YouTube videos and muslims friends' behavior in writing and
speaking and in the reality from my country where there are
some muslims who married with Romanian girls and asked them
to wear veil and restricted them 100 % in everything, especially to
stay at home, not to work and to make at least three children to
have what to do until they come back home, maybe ... "
Sunny :
"Dear Haminia, I understand what are you thinking and saying.
I accept that there are many flaws in what Islam really is, and
what muslims are doing. But for the educated ones, they know
that Islam is not what people do, instead Islam is what it teaches.
Go for the Islamic teachings, judge Islam by its teachings, by its
rules, regulations, and do not judge Islam by muslims doing. I
hope you will get what you want.
I am telling you right away being a muslim, that God does not
allow us to kill in any way, unless your own life is in danger. Even
in wars, we are forbidden to destroy crops and buildings, and kill
old people, women and children. This is Islamic teaching. Now if
I don't follow it, no matter how many times I declare myself as a
muslim, I am not a muslim!"
Ali :
"Very well put friend, it is not the idea that is bad, it is the people
who chose references to their liking and follow make it corrupt.
If we can agree with what most of these anti-Christ and anti-
muslims say, they themselves will fail to explain the expansion
of Islam in every culture and every human race, black or white,
Asian, Slavic, Nordic, you will find Islam in every face that the
Almighty has made, in spite Islam getting such a bad press,
propaganda."
Haminia :
"Dear Sunny, I am not thinking of simple killers...of one mad man
who kills another one. I wonder why the terrorists threaten all
the countries with blasts and revenge in the name of Allah ?
Why did the terrorists kill more than 30.000 people in Pakistan,
why the leader of terrorism was hidden 5 years in Pakistan and
why the talibans are allowed to live and kill in your country ?
This is not written in Quran but it happens in all the countries
of Islam and in other countries where the terrorists kill in the
name of Allah. They decide to kill as many people as they wish
once : thousands even if they sacrifice their own life.
They must be mad and a world danger for all the Humanity.
These attacks don't happen as you say all over the world. Check
it ! The terrorist attacks "happened" only where the muslims
wanted. I don't think of all the muslims but Pakistan is the best
house for the terrorists as all the people in the world could see ...
and the things go on in the same way as I can read even on
Pakistan Observer.
This is very bad for all the human beings because it is possible
to start the third world war ....soon . I feel very sorry for what
the leaders of the countries do because they will destroy the
Humanity.
God created us for Love and Peace not for the names of his false
messengers who order " Kill and you will be awarded by Allah".
I read all I write here and I also watched the images of the
terrorist attacks on TV Channels from all the world. Check on
YouTube about your country and you will see that everybody
can see all that happened ...
So many deaths of innocent people, that young officer who was
killed in Karachi last week and the others...I was shocked
when I saw his funerals on a video and I cried. God bless all
the human beings and never let the people kill the people ! "
Ahmed :
"Nope Haminia, I am not angry with you, God forbid, and it is
not in my nature as am an artist and a poet, and I believe in
what the French writer Voltaire said: "I do not agree with what
you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right..to say it".
And one of my saying is from the sermon which my dear Christ
said on the mount: "Do unto others what you want them to do
to you", even the Hadith (saying of my beloved prophet): No one
of you is a believer until he desires for his brother that which he
desires for himself; but the thing is it has just become so
fashionable these days that people have to blame the religion
for the sake of blaming, they don't see the reasons behind it, I
am no one to ask you to change your beliefs but lets be honest
to ourselves, what ever is happening must have some reason to
it, do ponder over it.
May the light be with you and with all of us and May the will
of Almighty prevails ! "
Sunny :
"Haminia, people always kill and its from centuries. Wars,there
were great wars in history, as world war1 and 2. Hiroshima
and Nagasaki bombing was not a terrorist attack? Tell me?
If you look at these terrorists, that you call as they have the best
house in Pakistan, if you know, Osama bin Laden is from Saudi
Arabia, and he was American agent earlier. You can think of
his misuse ...
Its all propaganda that he was hidden in Pakistan for five years,
and its simply not possible. He was the world's most famous man,
and for 5 years no one was able to see him hiding in Pakistan.
Funny it is !
It's all the game plan, dear to degrade Pakistan, to hold control,
to pressurize Pakistan. Unfortunately most of the world are
against Islam, and so they don't want to see muslims prospering.
So what they do and will be doing for the rest of life,highlight the
misuse of Islam. But you should know, that blaming Islam is not
the solution, as for the bad deeds, religion is not responsible.
You are responsible.
If a man is killing people, and he is saying he is muslim, it's not
true dear. He is just lying. He is against Islam. Islam does not
teach killing. Go read Quran, and see where Allah has ordered to
kill people and he will reward? Find it in Quran, and if you can
find I will accept that all terrorists are muslim. Although
everyone is terrorist now a days :)."
Haminia :
"It's a great difference between wars and terrorist attacks from
the international Laws point of view. When a country declares
war to another, there are many war rules accepted by them. Don't
think at the ancient wars when our issue is terrorist attacks .
They are made outside the wars rules.
They are just decided by muslims against any country when their
muscles want. Why do you take good part to the terrorists ? Are
you not full of suffering in Pakistan for the more than 30.000
innocent people killed by the terrorists who feel at home in your
country ? Why are they allowed to live there ? In other countries
a killer or more killers are not allowed to do crimes. They are
arrested and put into prison.
I am not a politician but I know what peaceful life all the people
live in Europe and other countries which I visited. Since the
second world war our country was not disturbed by anybody
because we are not a war country. We don't have muslims with
ambitions to win anything. The accepted muslims immigrants
live a normal life exactly like us. They decided to live here and
they don't ask anything more than we have. We respect each
other.
They are doctors and business men and work very well. Nobody
blames Islam because we never speak about religion. We just
live our life respecting the Laws of the State. Each one is free to
pray or not to pray, this is something very intimate ..it's not to
be spoken about. When I pray to God I don't shout loud to the
others : I am Christian and I am praying ! No, never ! I pray
with my soul and mind to God, in silence and alone !!! Nobody
must know that I pray and when I pray.
Muslims make a show from praying 5 times a day on the carpet,
each one...especially when they live in another country where
the majority of the people don't know anything about Islam and
prayers on the carpet. Muslims want to make shows and to know
everybody that they are muslims and they use the carpet, they
use the special clothes and their women wear veil.
If you accept in your house some guests and one of them starts
to behave strange every day and he disturbs you, what do you do ?
When I have such a guest I tell him/her that he/she is in my
house and must respect my and all the others' life. The same is
with muslims in some countries where they have been accepted
by the Goverments for study or work and after a while they started
to disturb the whole society.
If there is only one or a few it's not a problem for the Govt. but
when they start to threaten with terrorist attacks....who can love
and accept them ? Unfortunately many countries in the world
which accepted the muslims into their countries ...now face the
terrorist attacks. This is their "Thank you" for having been
helped to live a better life than they had had in their country.
You speak about the deed of a man..that he is responsible for
what he does. It's not the issue about one man, it's the grave
problem of thousands of thousands of killed people in the name
of Allah, as they say. Nobody thinks of Allah until they say it and
other signs of Islam.
Nobody blames Islam but the terrorists in Islam. How can they
have their own army and fight six hours with the army from
Karachi (last week), for example s ? I read Quran and I see how
it is applied in life ! Books are very silent when one reads them...
All the people in the world see what happens in Pakistan.
Nobody has any problem with your very good and innocent
people as you are for me but everyone could see the images
from Abbottabad and all the interviews with the local people
and authorities who recognized that Bin Laden lived there.
The images and articles and declarations are very true.
Even the wives of Bin Laden told the same: that they have
been living in the house from Abbottabad for more than five
years. So, you and everybody in the world think the same :
How could he live there five years and nobody had known
before the Americans discovered him? Why was he hidden
and by whom in your country ? This is the question for
Pakistan.
I feel very very sorry, I cry when I watch TV and see the
terrorist attacks from Pakistan and so many people killed,
dear friend ! Somebody must change the things very quickly ...
the lives of the people must be saved. God created us to live ,
to love Beauty and to be Happy ! God bless Us ! "
Sunny :
Haminia :
Dear Sunny, I appreciate your good English very much ! I haven't
expected you to write me again. You are a lovely friend. I can
understand your suffering and I know how many human lives
Pakistan lost , I know from Mass media all the consequences the
Pakistani people suffer and the country, too.
What I can not understand and I read that all the other people in
the world can't understand is WHY ??? Why it happens in Pakistan ?
Why the authorities allow all of these sufferings happen ? How
could the leader of terrorists live 5 years in Pakistan so good
protected that "nobody" had known about his presence next to
Islamabad ? Why did I read an article in "Pakistan Observer" that
shocked me with the words " Pakistani talibans ...and Pakistani
non-talibans " ??? it was about the talibans who attacked Karachi
last week. The author of the article also was wondering how could
the talibans enter the Military base and how could they fight with
guns against hundreds of people from the Pakistani army for
5 hours ??
"The biggest blast in the history..." I could read, four killed officers
and that young lieutenant Syed Yaser Abbas who created me the
breathless of my heart until I saw his funerals on a video...So much
suffering in the last 30 years in your country.... How is it possible ???
How and who accept this situation ? Why Pakistani citizens kill the
other Pakistani citizens ?
My dear friend... If you don't know why all the people call the
talibans muslims this is because they say they are fighting for Allah
and they really are born in Islamic countries. The terrorist attacks
come from them all around the world...why ??? This is another
question in my mind but you must not answer to it because it is not
your job to know everything. I am a reader of the newspapers and I
suffer very much when I see every evening on TV News again and
again killed people in the Islamic countries from North Africa these
days.
So many lost lives for what ??? I am very sorry for you and the
Pakistani innocent people and I wonder how can you bear so much
suffering ? When I say you, I mean the authorities, not the common
people. What can do the common people when they don't have the
power of decision ? They can cry...only as I see.
I think that Pakistan is the main key for the World Peace Now ! If
Pakistan will not take the best decisions for ever peace the third
world war will start soon ...I also read about this. I know more
things read and heard on TV but it's not my business to discuss
them. I can say that I am afraid of the third world war because my
grandparents lived the second and they told me what disaster it
was.
The words that you don't like I read on many newspapers and I also
think that they are right. They represent the reality even if you don't
agree with it. It happens to be true. I also read that the new leader
of the world terrorists was elected in another place from Pakistan.
How is possible ?? So many questions, too many questions and no answers..."nobody knows" what happens on the territory of your
country ?
I think that the Truth is hidden for some interests. I don't know and
only the people from Pak can do something for changing the
suffering in normal life ! We are made by God, the Creator as human
beings to LIVE, TO BE HAPPY NOT TO DIE. God is our hope only !
His Mind and Wisdom ! Love and Light !"
Sunny :
"I understand. well there are certain facts that you should know about pakistan: 1: Our leaders are corrupt, and they do not want to bring peace, because in doing so they will loose the foreign aids, that they receive from World. 2: Talibans are originally from Afghanistan (Who basically fought against Russia, and now fighting against USA). Their branch in Pakistan is known as Pakistani Taliban. But still they are from Afghanistan. 3: There is area in pakistan known as "Tribal Areas" or "Agencies". Geographically this area is alondside border with Afghanistan. It is where these talibans are stationed. These areas are affiliated with pakistan, but there is no writ of government in these agencies. they have their own tribal rules and regulations and do not follow Pakistan system. technically its mountains, barren and dry, and hard to explore and penetrate. Just like the series of hamaliyas. So they are very well protected there, because its almost impossible to search them in these mountains. Like tora bora in afghanistan. 4: Pakistan army had and is having several operations in these areas, and its a great sacrifice, because its almost difficult to identify whos ours and whose enemy. this enemy is within us and same as our own people. so its very hard to identify them. 5: Several atatcks are i beleive supported by Politicians in pakistan. in doing so they weaken the current government, and paves a way for their entry. like various opposition parties actually deployed these talibans in bringing down the general pervez mushrraf, former president. So politics is also their, who hire these killers, and create chaos for their own benefit. 6: Enemies of pakistan could also use these HIRED KILERS to destabilize paksitan, because paksitan is geographically very important. If paksitan is weak, and you can take control of it, you can actually get the control of whole south asian region. Thats why several enemies are trying to destabilize this region. 7: There are ISLAMIC EXTEMISM also prevailing in uneducated areas of paksitan, which is deprived of basic facilities and amenities of life, like Pakhtunkhwa, And Balochistan province. When people have no access to basic education, and they are dependent on false MADRASSAH SYSTEM where they take the religious or so called spiritual education, and combined with hunger, poverty, shelter, they actually becomes the extremist. Wrong interpretation of of the religion makes them readily available to be played by corruptors and utilized in such attacks! besides all above factors, there are several other factors also dear. Very complex and very challenging. Our people, dedicated ones, our forces, and our establishement is trying best to minimize and control these issues, and we have gained so much control. Its easy to face war from out, but when its inside its very difficult to control. but still we have done alot. If you talk about osama, he was educated in saudia, trained in America, and lived in So many countries unnoticed that you can name. Then why blame is on Pakistan only. Dont you see, its only Pakistan who allowed to kill him. Why USA were unable to kill him in Afghanistan, or in any other country. He was in Paksitan for 5 years, where was he before? if paksitan has not told, other countries have not also told. but even paksitan arranged his killing, because we are in favour of justice. we are not in favor of terrorism.our sacrifices, our suffering is proof of our contribution towards world peace. Do not worry of 3rd world war. Now we have several nations with Nuclear Power, so if any major war starts, it would be the end of world eventually. and i beleive how much greedy or selfish world politics is, they will not end up with no earth at all :)"
I accept that there are many flaws in what Islam really is, and
what muslims are doing. But for the educated ones, they know
that Islam is not what people do, instead Islam is what it teaches.
Go for the Islamic teachings, judge Islam by its teachings, by its
rules, regulations, and do not judge Islam by muslims doing. I
hope you will get what you want.
I am telling you right away being a muslim, that God does not
allow us to kill in any way, unless your own life is in danger. Even
in wars, we are forbidden to destroy crops and buildings, and kill
old people, women and children. This is Islamic teaching. Now if
I don't follow it, no matter how many times I declare myself as a
muslim, I am not a muslim!"
Ali :
"Very well put friend, it is not the idea that is bad, it is the people
who chose references to their liking and follow make it corrupt.
If we can agree with what most of these anti-Christ and anti-
muslims say, they themselves will fail to explain the expansion
of Islam in every culture and every human race, black or white,
Asian, Slavic, Nordic, you will find Islam in every face that the
Almighty has made, in spite Islam getting such a bad press,
propaganda."
Haminia :
"Dear Sunny, I am not thinking of simple killers...of one mad man
who kills another one. I wonder why the terrorists threaten all
the countries with blasts and revenge in the name of Allah ?
Why did the terrorists kill more than 30.000 people in Pakistan,
why the leader of terrorism was hidden 5 years in Pakistan and
why the talibans are allowed to live and kill in your country ?
This is not written in Quran but it happens in all the countries
of Islam and in other countries where the terrorists kill in the
name of Allah. They decide to kill as many people as they wish
once : thousands even if they sacrifice their own life.
They must be mad and a world danger for all the Humanity.
These attacks don't happen as you say all over the world. Check
it ! The terrorist attacks "happened" only where the muslims
wanted. I don't think of all the muslims but Pakistan is the best
house for the terrorists as all the people in the world could see ...
and the things go on in the same way as I can read even on
Pakistan Observer.
This is very bad for all the human beings because it is possible
to start the third world war ....soon . I feel very sorry for what
the leaders of the countries do because they will destroy the
Humanity.
God created us for Love and Peace not for the names of his false
messengers who order " Kill and you will be awarded by Allah".
I read all I write here and I also watched the images of the
terrorist attacks on TV Channels from all the world. Check on
YouTube about your country and you will see that everybody
can see all that happened ...
So many deaths of innocent people, that young officer who was
killed in Karachi last week and the others...I was shocked
when I saw his funerals on a video and I cried. God bless all
the human beings and never let the people kill the people ! "
Ahmed :
"Nope Haminia, I am not angry with you, God forbid, and it is
not in my nature as am an artist and a poet, and I believe in
what the French writer Voltaire said: "I do not agree with what
you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right..to say it".
And one of my saying is from the sermon which my dear Christ
said on the mount: "Do unto others what you want them to do
to you", even the Hadith (saying of my beloved prophet): No one
of you is a believer until he desires for his brother that which he
desires for himself; but the thing is it has just become so
fashionable these days that people have to blame the religion
for the sake of blaming, they don't see the reasons behind it, I
am no one to ask you to change your beliefs but lets be honest
to ourselves, what ever is happening must have some reason to
it, do ponder over it.
May the light be with you and with all of us and May the will
of Almighty prevails ! "
Sunny :
"Haminia, people always kill and its from centuries. Wars,there
were great wars in history, as world war1 and 2. Hiroshima
and Nagasaki bombing was not a terrorist attack? Tell me?
If you look at these terrorists, that you call as they have the best
house in Pakistan, if you know, Osama bin Laden is from Saudi
Arabia, and he was American agent earlier. You can think of
his misuse ...
Its all propaganda that he was hidden in Pakistan for five years,
and its simply not possible. He was the world's most famous man,
and for 5 years no one was able to see him hiding in Pakistan.
Funny it is !
It's all the game plan, dear to degrade Pakistan, to hold control,
to pressurize Pakistan. Unfortunately most of the world are
against Islam, and so they don't want to see muslims prospering.
So what they do and will be doing for the rest of life,highlight the
misuse of Islam. But you should know, that blaming Islam is not
the solution, as for the bad deeds, religion is not responsible.
You are responsible.
If a man is killing people, and he is saying he is muslim, it's not
true dear. He is just lying. He is against Islam. Islam does not
teach killing. Go read Quran, and see where Allah has ordered to
kill people and he will reward? Find it in Quran, and if you can
find I will accept that all terrorists are muslim. Although
everyone is terrorist now a days :)."
Haminia :
"It's a great difference between wars and terrorist attacks from
the international Laws point of view. When a country declares
war to another, there are many war rules accepted by them. Don't
think at the ancient wars when our issue is terrorist attacks .
They are made outside the wars rules.
They are just decided by muslims against any country when their
muscles want. Why do you take good part to the terrorists ? Are
you not full of suffering in Pakistan for the more than 30.000
innocent people killed by the terrorists who feel at home in your
country ? Why are they allowed to live there ? In other countries
a killer or more killers are not allowed to do crimes. They are
arrested and put into prison.
I am not a politician but I know what peaceful life all the people
live in Europe and other countries which I visited. Since the
second world war our country was not disturbed by anybody
because we are not a war country. We don't have muslims with
ambitions to win anything. The accepted muslims immigrants
live a normal life exactly like us. They decided to live here and
they don't ask anything more than we have. We respect each
other.
They are doctors and business men and work very well. Nobody
blames Islam because we never speak about religion. We just
live our life respecting the Laws of the State. Each one is free to
pray or not to pray, this is something very intimate ..it's not to
be spoken about. When I pray to God I don't shout loud to the
others : I am Christian and I am praying ! No, never ! I pray
with my soul and mind to God, in silence and alone !!! Nobody
must know that I pray and when I pray.
Muslims make a show from praying 5 times a day on the carpet,
each one...especially when they live in another country where
the majority of the people don't know anything about Islam and
prayers on the carpet. Muslims want to make shows and to know
everybody that they are muslims and they use the carpet, they
use the special clothes and their women wear veil.
If you accept in your house some guests and one of them starts
to behave strange every day and he disturbs you, what do you do ?
When I have such a guest I tell him/her that he/she is in my
house and must respect my and all the others' life. The same is
with muslims in some countries where they have been accepted
by the Goverments for study or work and after a while they started
to disturb the whole society.
If there is only one or a few it's not a problem for the Govt. but
when they start to threaten with terrorist attacks....who can love
and accept them ? Unfortunately many countries in the world
which accepted the muslims into their countries ...now face the
terrorist attacks. This is their "Thank you" for having been
helped to live a better life than they had had in their country.
You speak about the deed of a man..that he is responsible for
what he does. It's not the issue about one man, it's the grave
problem of thousands of thousands of killed people in the name
of Allah, as they say. Nobody thinks of Allah until they say it and
other signs of Islam.
Nobody blames Islam but the terrorists in Islam. How can they
have their own army and fight six hours with the army from
Karachi (last week), for example s ? I read Quran and I see how
it is applied in life ! Books are very silent when one reads them...
All the people in the world see what happens in Pakistan.
Nobody has any problem with your very good and innocent
people as you are for me but everyone could see the images
from Abbottabad and all the interviews with the local people
and authorities who recognized that Bin Laden lived there.
The images and articles and declarations are very true.
Even the wives of Bin Laden told the same: that they have
been living in the house from Abbottabad for more than five
years. So, you and everybody in the world think the same :
How could he live there five years and nobody had known
before the Americans discovered him? Why was he hidden
and by whom in your country ? This is the question for
Pakistan.
I feel very very sorry, I cry when I watch TV and see the
terrorist attacks from Pakistan and so many people killed,
dear friend ! Somebody must change the things very quickly ...
the lives of the people must be saved. God created us to live ,
to love Beauty and to be Happy ! God bless Us ! "
Sunny :
"Dear Haminia, the things you are discussing are true, but
not everything is true. Let me tell you about Osama,living in
Abbottabad. He has been ordered to shoot on sight by CIA
and Interpool, and Americans got info on him last year in
august. Why they waited so many months to track and shoot
him down?
If hes living in Paksitan, anyone could have sighted him and
reported to authorities. Its not possible that for whole 5 years
he was in one room only! So there are some techniques,
countries use in politics to pressurize and degrade others.
Its one story! USA is been trying to rule over the world, since
last 200 years. What will you say about them? They invaded
Afghanistan, Iraq, and killed so many innocent people, in war,
which you think have some rules. More than 30.000 people,
and still its going on in Iraq. They destroyed bulidings, whole
cities, infrastructure. Now imagine situation in Iraq, with
no life at all and whos responsible?
Now I will again ask you to not take terrorists as muslims.
Anyone who is responsible in terrorrist attacks, is not muslim.
If they are muslims, tell me why are they killing their own
muslim brothers in Pakistan? Can you imagine?
Have you ever watched American videos on youtube? Any news
about what has happened in Palestine, Bosenia, Kashmir, Iraq,
Afghanistan? Watch them, observe them, and compare them
with what is happening in Pakistan. I am not against USA, but I
am just pointing out you the difference between religion,
terrorrism, and politics! "
Haminia :
"Russia invaded Afganistan first in 1969, why do you say that
USA invaded it? USA came to help Afgahistan and in that year
USA made the first arrangement with Pakistan...which
permitted USA to bring on Pakistan its forces to help Afganistan.
I read it in Pakistan Observer, don't tell me your stories.
I am looking for the truth and I don't believe in my or other
suppositions. I check more sources from different countries
and I can say what everybody says. It's too much to speak about
but if you like the issue, I invite you to my country for a week
when you will tell me all the history...I don't agree with your
words.
Read more and don't let your mind be manipulated by anybody
because you will suffer and many others. I care about all the
people but not for myself. If you think that the terrorists are
not muslims I will send you some videos to see them. You don't
want to recognize anything. It's your business but I speak with
other Pakistani friends and they say other things.
Very interesting ...Didn't you watch the news about the wife of
Bin Laden and 8 children at Abbottabad who declared to the
Pakistani Police that she and Bin Laden and the children lived
at Abbottabad more than 5 years...I put an end to this contra-
discussion. I wish you and all the Pakistani people only
happiness ! God bless Us !
Sunny :
Haminia :
"Why do you think all time and say the word USA ? I don't use this
word at all. I am not interested in what USA or other country does.
You started this discussion and I replied with what I read and
listen to other people from more countries.
All you say is a fairy tale. I told you more times : I READ THE
QURAN and I read the newspapers in the world. I don't believe
what you say, sorry. I have my mind and I don't accept to be
forced to think like anyone else.
Why do you use so much the names of Islam, muslims and USA ?
All the people from the muslims countries have in their mind these
words. Why ? We never speak about our religion at all. We live our
life based on the laws of the State. I visited other countries in
Europe and I didn't see anyone to speak about his religion.
Only muslims make a show about their religion. They want that all
the people know who they are, why ? What do they want to show to
the others? Why more muslims told me that all the non-muslims
women are "public property" and I found these words in
Muhammad's life and in many written aticles. They hurt the women
from all over the world, they hurt me even if we are "friends", they
say. This is the muslims' friendship.
All is good until they start to speak about Islam, Allah and
Muhammad. They can not bear a discussion without mentioning
Islam rules. All of them refer to America..I am amazed. If Pakistan
had an arrangement with USA since 1970 maybe you know more
about your problems in the country. I also know that America
received millions of muslims in America to study and to work.
All the European countries accepted muslims for study and
work and all these countries face the terrorist attacks now.
This is the "Thank you" of the muslims. And they still live very
good life in America and Europe, in Canada, etc. I am not a
politician but I see what happens in the world. Why muslims
kill muslims is also my question and I want to know . You know,
don't ask me.
The muslims kill their wives and daughters not only foreigners.
I have many videos. They are horrible. All of them are muslims.
I will send you many videos to see because I can't believe that
you don't know and want to cheat me. I can not be cheated. I
believe in God and in what I can see with my own eyes : true and
known cases. If I show you a egg and tell you " This is an egg" and
you reply "This is not an egg" it's not worth going on with the
conversation. In our case, it is the same.
I wish you have a good life ! God be with you and all the people!
I don't want to discuss this issue with you. I don't agree your
ideas ref. Islam and muslims. "
Sunny :
Haminia, I just point you out towards what all are doing, and you
are always putting focus on Islam and Muslims. That's why I am
using these words. We do not show, but when we are forced to
believe on non Islamic events, we have to show... our true
representation, by condemning these false blames on Muslims.
As you can see for the sake of some terrorist (Who have no
religion at all), you are blaming all muslims. This is injustice.
It makes no difference whether you agree or not, and I am not here
trying to make you agreed whatever I am saying. I am just putting
another perspective on the issues which you are confusing with
many different ideas!
I will again say that, Terrorists are not muslims, they have no
religion at all. Terrorism is the result of INJUSTICE, POVERTY,
HUNGER, FAILURE. it's not the teaching of religion ISLAM.
I am always quoting USA, because it is what going on in the world.
Can you still justify USA in IRAQ, or in Afghanistan, or in any
other country? Even USA now is tired of these so many military
presence in various geographic regions.
People has now realized that WARS are not the solutions to
PEACE. That's why OBAMA is always focusing on DIPLOMATIC
Relationships between the nations.
If you show me Chicken Egg, and say its Ostrich Egg, I will not
believe.
The only thing I want from you is to analyze on the basis of
recorded, written, authentic teachings, of any religion if you
want to know about religion. Do not study religion by its
followers. World is a maze of complex political influences and
consequences Haminia. What you may see, is not the truth, but
the interpretation of the truth.
I disagree with your view that "THANK YOU" is from Muslims.
There are billions of muslims living around the world, peacefully
and dignified. There are many foreigners as well living in muslim
countries peacefully. Pakistan state even, have rules and
regulations about the foreign elements, their security, and their
rights.
Its a free country Haminia, just like any other country. Now if
some bad people have committed to destroy the image and
stability of my country, I am telling you we will track down them,
panelize them, and will not let them do what they are doing.
You do not know how many sacrifices we have done, in this
uncalled fight. You do not know the losses of Pakistan forces
fighting against these elements. You do not know the economic
impact we are facing for these events. Its not that we are
providing SAFE HOUSE for terrorists in our country to let them
destroy our own land! That's what I am all talking about.
not everything is true. Let me tell you about Osama,living in
Abbottabad. He has been ordered to shoot on sight by CIA
and Interpool, and Americans got info on him last year in
august. Why they waited so many months to track and shoot
him down?
If hes living in Paksitan, anyone could have sighted him and
reported to authorities. Its not possible that for whole 5 years
he was in one room only! So there are some techniques,
countries use in politics to pressurize and degrade others.
Its one story! USA is been trying to rule over the world, since
last 200 years. What will you say about them? They invaded
Afghanistan, Iraq, and killed so many innocent people, in war,
which you think have some rules. More than 30.000 people,
and still its going on in Iraq. They destroyed bulidings, whole
cities, infrastructure. Now imagine situation in Iraq, with
no life at all and whos responsible?
Now I will again ask you to not take terrorists as muslims.
Anyone who is responsible in terrorrist attacks, is not muslim.
If they are muslims, tell me why are they killing their own
muslim brothers in Pakistan? Can you imagine?
Have you ever watched American videos on youtube? Any news
about what has happened in Palestine, Bosenia, Kashmir, Iraq,
Afghanistan? Watch them, observe them, and compare them
with what is happening in Pakistan. I am not against USA, but I
am just pointing out you the difference between religion,
terrorrism, and politics! "
Haminia :
"Russia invaded Afganistan first in 1969, why do you say that
USA invaded it? USA came to help Afgahistan and in that year
USA made the first arrangement with Pakistan...which
permitted USA to bring on Pakistan its forces to help Afganistan.
I read it in Pakistan Observer, don't tell me your stories.
I am looking for the truth and I don't believe in my or other
suppositions. I check more sources from different countries
and I can say what everybody says. It's too much to speak about
but if you like the issue, I invite you to my country for a week
when you will tell me all the history...I don't agree with your
words.
Read more and don't let your mind be manipulated by anybody
because you will suffer and many others. I care about all the
people but not for myself. If you think that the terrorists are
not muslims I will send you some videos to see them. You don't
want to recognize anything. It's your business but I speak with
other Pakistani friends and they say other things.
Very interesting ...Didn't you watch the news about the wife of
Bin Laden and 8 children at Abbottabad who declared to the
Pakistani Police that she and Bin Laden and the children lived
at Abbottabad more than 5 years...I put an end to this contra-
discussion. I wish you and all the Pakistani people only
happiness ! God bless Us !
Sunny :
"I again say, dont judge muslims by their deeds. If you wanna
know what muslim is, read islamic teachings. and read only
quran. People in killer's disguise are not muslims. they can
never be, how strongly they claim. The thing you are calling a
MUSLIM, is not the true or even 1% representation of MUSLIM.
Find teachings about what MUSLIM and Islam is. then you will
understand what i am saying. I am also not telling you my
stories, instead i am telling you what is truth and what is eye is
seeing!
You are missing the whole concept, which is that if you say your
a muslim, and you are terrorist, its just nothing. being a muslim,
I know what Islam teaches me, and what MUSLIM means!
Muslims dont kill in name of Allah or in name of religion. They
don't fight, they dont want to rule the world, as our basic concept
and the very fundamental beleif is this that "This world is just a
transitional phase, and our true life is after our death". Knowing
this beleif, muslims cant think to rule on temporary earth realms!
Find Haminia basic beleif system of Islam, and then compare it,
think yourself as beleiving on thise beleif, will you be a terrorist,
and claim yourself a MUSLIM?
You see and read about Pakistan. Tell me do you see terrorist
attacks in Iran, Dubai, UAE, Qatar, nahrain, Malaysia, Indonesia,
or any other muslim counttry? You will find these attacks in
Pakistan, Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine.
I want to know your views about what is happening in Kashmir,
in Iraq, in Palestine? Why, why dont you protest these actions
in these areas? Do you know what war system Islam introduces?
Here are some teachings Islam and Quran tell us:
1: Do not attack on weaker enemies.
2: Do not kill women, old people, childeren during war.
3: Do not destroy Crops, buildings, roads, infrastructure during
war.
Now tell me if i am not following these teachings in war, am I
MUSLIM? NO. They are not Muslims and they will not be treated
as Muslims.
I will ask you to analyze teachings, for any religion. do not
analyze what their practitioners are doing. Act of one man can't
define the fate of whole religion, if he is not following the
teachings or beleif system of that religion. Even if i accept your
version that these terrorists are muslims, than why muslims
are killing muslims? Any logical objection?
I am talking about NOW what USA is doing in Afghanistan
or Iraq? Russia has gone, Pakistan has gone out of Afghanistan.
What are americans waiting for? Cleaning the waste?
Think Haminia."
know what muslim is, read islamic teachings. and read only
quran. People in killer's disguise are not muslims. they can
never be, how strongly they claim. The thing you are calling a
MUSLIM, is not the true or even 1% representation of MUSLIM.
Find teachings about what MUSLIM and Islam is. then you will
understand what i am saying. I am also not telling you my
stories, instead i am telling you what is truth and what is eye is
seeing!
You are missing the whole concept, which is that if you say your
a muslim, and you are terrorist, its just nothing. being a muslim,
I know what Islam teaches me, and what MUSLIM means!
Muslims dont kill in name of Allah or in name of religion. They
don't fight, they dont want to rule the world, as our basic concept
and the very fundamental beleif is this that "This world is just a
transitional phase, and our true life is after our death". Knowing
this beleif, muslims cant think to rule on temporary earth realms!
Find Haminia basic beleif system of Islam, and then compare it,
think yourself as beleiving on thise beleif, will you be a terrorist,
and claim yourself a MUSLIM?
You see and read about Pakistan. Tell me do you see terrorist
attacks in Iran, Dubai, UAE, Qatar, nahrain, Malaysia, Indonesia,
or any other muslim counttry? You will find these attacks in
Pakistan, Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine.
I want to know your views about what is happening in Kashmir,
in Iraq, in Palestine? Why, why dont you protest these actions
in these areas? Do you know what war system Islam introduces?
Here are some teachings Islam and Quran tell us:
1: Do not attack on weaker enemies.
2: Do not kill women, old people, childeren during war.
3: Do not destroy Crops, buildings, roads, infrastructure during
war.
Now tell me if i am not following these teachings in war, am I
MUSLIM? NO. They are not Muslims and they will not be treated
as Muslims.
I will ask you to analyze teachings, for any religion. do not
analyze what their practitioners are doing. Act of one man can't
define the fate of whole religion, if he is not following the
teachings or beleif system of that religion. Even if i accept your
version that these terrorists are muslims, than why muslims
are killing muslims? Any logical objection?
I am talking about NOW what USA is doing in Afghanistan
or Iraq? Russia has gone, Pakistan has gone out of Afghanistan.
What are americans waiting for? Cleaning the waste?
Think Haminia."
Haminia :
"Why do you think all time and say the word USA ? I don't use this
word at all. I am not interested in what USA or other country does.
You started this discussion and I replied with what I read and
listen to other people from more countries.
All you say is a fairy tale. I told you more times : I READ THE
QURAN and I read the newspapers in the world. I don't believe
what you say, sorry. I have my mind and I don't accept to be
forced to think like anyone else.
Why do you use so much the names of Islam, muslims and USA ?
All the people from the muslims countries have in their mind these
words. Why ? We never speak about our religion at all. We live our
life based on the laws of the State. I visited other countries in
Europe and I didn't see anyone to speak about his religion.
Only muslims make a show about their religion. They want that all
the people know who they are, why ? What do they want to show to
the others? Why more muslims told me that all the non-muslims
women are "public property" and I found these words in
Muhammad's life and in many written aticles. They hurt the women
from all over the world, they hurt me even if we are "friends", they
say. This is the muslims' friendship.
All is good until they start to speak about Islam, Allah and
Muhammad. They can not bear a discussion without mentioning
Islam rules. All of them refer to America..I am amazed. If Pakistan
had an arrangement with USA since 1970 maybe you know more
about your problems in the country. I also know that America
received millions of muslims in America to study and to work.
All the European countries accepted muslims for study and
work and all these countries face the terrorist attacks now.
This is the "Thank you" of the muslims. And they still live very
good life in America and Europe, in Canada, etc. I am not a
politician but I see what happens in the world. Why muslims
kill muslims is also my question and I want to know . You know,
don't ask me.
The muslims kill their wives and daughters not only foreigners.
I have many videos. They are horrible. All of them are muslims.
I will send you many videos to see because I can't believe that
you don't know and want to cheat me. I can not be cheated. I
believe in God and in what I can see with my own eyes : true and
known cases. If I show you a egg and tell you " This is an egg" and
you reply "This is not an egg" it's not worth going on with the
conversation. In our case, it is the same.
I wish you have a good life ! God be with you and all the people!
I don't want to discuss this issue with you. I don't agree your
ideas ref. Islam and muslims. "
Sunny :
Haminia, I just point you out towards what all are doing, and you
are always putting focus on Islam and Muslims. That's why I am
using these words. We do not show, but when we are forced to
believe on non Islamic events, we have to show... our true
representation, by condemning these false blames on Muslims.
As you can see for the sake of some terrorist (Who have no
religion at all), you are blaming all muslims. This is injustice.
It makes no difference whether you agree or not, and I am not here
trying to make you agreed whatever I am saying. I am just putting
another perspective on the issues which you are confusing with
many different ideas!
I will again say that, Terrorists are not muslims, they have no
religion at all. Terrorism is the result of INJUSTICE, POVERTY,
HUNGER, FAILURE. it's not the teaching of religion ISLAM.
I am always quoting USA, because it is what going on in the world.
Can you still justify USA in IRAQ, or in Afghanistan, or in any
other country? Even USA now is tired of these so many military
presence in various geographic regions.
People has now realized that WARS are not the solutions to
PEACE. That's why OBAMA is always focusing on DIPLOMATIC
Relationships between the nations.
If you show me Chicken Egg, and say its Ostrich Egg, I will not
believe.
The only thing I want from you is to analyze on the basis of
recorded, written, authentic teachings, of any religion if you
want to know about religion. Do not study religion by its
followers. World is a maze of complex political influences and
consequences Haminia. What you may see, is not the truth, but
the interpretation of the truth.
I disagree with your view that "THANK YOU" is from Muslims.
There are billions of muslims living around the world, peacefully
and dignified. There are many foreigners as well living in muslim
countries peacefully. Pakistan state even, have rules and
regulations about the foreign elements, their security, and their
rights.
Its a free country Haminia, just like any other country. Now if
some bad people have committed to destroy the image and
stability of my country, I am telling you we will track down them,
panelize them, and will not let them do what they are doing.
You do not know how many sacrifices we have done, in this
uncalled fight. You do not know the losses of Pakistan forces
fighting against these elements. You do not know the economic
impact we are facing for these events. Its not that we are
providing SAFE HOUSE for terrorists in our country to let them
destroy our own land! That's what I am all talking about.
Haminia :
Dear Sunny, I appreciate your good English very much ! I haven't
expected you to write me again. You are a lovely friend. I can
understand your suffering and I know how many human lives
Pakistan lost , I know from Mass media all the consequences the
Pakistani people suffer and the country, too.
What I can not understand and I read that all the other people in
the world can't understand is WHY ??? Why it happens in Pakistan ?
Why the authorities allow all of these sufferings happen ? How
could the leader of terrorists live 5 years in Pakistan so good
protected that "nobody" had known about his presence next to
Islamabad ? Why did I read an article in "Pakistan Observer" that
shocked me with the words " Pakistani talibans ...and Pakistani
non-talibans " ??? it was about the talibans who attacked Karachi
last week. The author of the article also was wondering how could
the talibans enter the Military base and how could they fight with
guns against hundreds of people from the Pakistani army for
5 hours ??
"The biggest blast in the history..." I could read, four killed officers
and that young lieutenant Syed Yaser Abbas who created me the
breathless of my heart until I saw his funerals on a video...So much
suffering in the last 30 years in your country.... How is it possible ???
How and who accept this situation ? Why Pakistani citizens kill the
other Pakistani citizens ?
My dear friend... If you don't know why all the people call the
talibans muslims this is because they say they are fighting for Allah
and they really are born in Islamic countries. The terrorist attacks
come from them all around the world...why ??? This is another
question in my mind but you must not answer to it because it is not
your job to know everything. I am a reader of the newspapers and I
suffer very much when I see every evening on TV News again and
again killed people in the Islamic countries from North Africa these
days.
So many lost lives for what ??? I am very sorry for you and the
Pakistani innocent people and I wonder how can you bear so much
suffering ? When I say you, I mean the authorities, not the common
people. What can do the common people when they don't have the
power of decision ? They can cry...only as I see.
I think that Pakistan is the main key for the World Peace Now ! If
Pakistan will not take the best decisions for ever peace the third
world war will start soon ...I also read about this. I know more
things read and heard on TV but it's not my business to discuss
them. I can say that I am afraid of the third world war because my
grandparents lived the second and they told me what disaster it
was.
The words that you don't like I read on many newspapers and I also
think that they are right. They represent the reality even if you don't
agree with it. It happens to be true. I also read that the new leader
of the world terrorists was elected in another place from Pakistan.
How is possible ?? So many questions, too many questions and no answers..."nobody knows" what happens on the territory of your
country ?
I think that the Truth is hidden for some interests. I don't know and
only the people from Pak can do something for changing the
suffering in normal life ! We are made by God, the Creator as human
beings to LIVE, TO BE HAPPY NOT TO DIE. God is our hope only !
His Mind and Wisdom ! Love and Light !"
Sunny :
"I understand. well there are certain facts that you should know about pakistan: 1: Our leaders are corrupt, and they do not want to bring peace, because in doing so they will loose the foreign aids, that they receive from World. 2: Talibans are originally from Afghanistan (Who basically fought against Russia, and now fighting against USA). Their branch in Pakistan is known as Pakistani Taliban. But still they are from Afghanistan. 3: There is area in pakistan known as "Tribal Areas" or "Agencies". Geographically this area is alondside border with Afghanistan. It is where these talibans are stationed. These areas are affiliated with pakistan, but there is no writ of government in these agencies. they have their own tribal rules and regulations and do not follow Pakistan system. technically its mountains, barren and dry, and hard to explore and penetrate. Just like the series of hamaliyas. So they are very well protected there, because its almost impossible to search them in these mountains. Like tora bora in afghanistan. 4: Pakistan army had and is having several operations in these areas, and its a great sacrifice, because its almost difficult to identify whos ours and whose enemy. this enemy is within us and same as our own people. so its very hard to identify them. 5: Several atatcks are i beleive supported by Politicians in pakistan. in doing so they weaken the current government, and paves a way for their entry. like various opposition parties actually deployed these talibans in bringing down the general pervez mushrraf, former president. So politics is also their, who hire these killers, and create chaos for their own benefit. 6: Enemies of pakistan could also use these HIRED KILERS to destabilize paksitan, because paksitan is geographically very important. If paksitan is weak, and you can take control of it, you can actually get the control of whole south asian region. Thats why several enemies are trying to destabilize this region. 7: There are ISLAMIC EXTEMISM also prevailing in uneducated areas of paksitan, which is deprived of basic facilities and amenities of life, like Pakhtunkhwa, And Balochistan province. When people have no access to basic education, and they are dependent on false MADRASSAH SYSTEM where they take the religious or so called spiritual education, and combined with hunger, poverty, shelter, they actually becomes the extremist. Wrong interpretation of of the religion makes them readily available to be played by corruptors and utilized in such attacks! besides all above factors, there are several other factors also dear. Very complex and very challenging. Our people, dedicated ones, our forces, and our establishement is trying best to minimize and control these issues, and we have gained so much control. Its easy to face war from out, but when its inside its very difficult to control. but still we have done alot. If you talk about osama, he was educated in saudia, trained in America, and lived in So many countries unnoticed that you can name. Then why blame is on Pakistan only. Dont you see, its only Pakistan who allowed to kill him. Why USA were unable to kill him in Afghanistan, or in any other country. He was in Paksitan for 5 years, where was he before? if paksitan has not told, other countries have not also told. but even paksitan arranged his killing, because we are in favour of justice. we are not in favor of terrorism.our sacrifices, our suffering is proof of our contribution towards world peace. Do not worry of 3rd world war. Now we have several nations with Nuclear Power, so if any major war starts, it would be the end of world eventually. and i beleive how much greedy or selfish world politics is, they will not end up with no earth at all :)"
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